כ״ה תשרי ה׳תשפ״ז | October 6, 2026
What Are You Looking For in Chassidus?
“A therapist once told me that Internal Family Systems (IFS) is Torah. Personally, I disagree. IFS is not Torah. It is a development of the field of (somewhat alternative) psychology. Psychology is not Torah.”
By an Anash.org reader
Recently, I have been learning Kunteres Heichaltzu and maamar Bayom Ashtei Asar. Based on past experience with learning and understanding what I’ve learned, I assume that my understanding of it will deepen over time. What follows is an expression of my current perspective inspired by what I’ve learned and what comes to mind following the recent discussions on Anash.
I offer this article as a simple, genuine contribution for continued conversational development. I feel that most of Torah can be viewed as paradoxical, and yet a testimony to Hashem’s Oneness. The intention is simply to share my thoughts with space for reflection and correction if these thoughts inspire counter-perspectives or questions.
The Rebbe spoke about the unique nature of dancing as back-and-forth movement, and the Rebbe connected this movement to the dance of real shakla v’tarya.
Yet, before engaging in such movement, I think it’s really important to establish: Where are we moving to? So before saying anything else, I would like to begin with the knowledge that we are yirei Shamayim seeking Hashem’s truth and to fulfill His Will and to serve Him with a full heart.
That doesn’t mean we will always agree on which exact derech Chassidus directs us in each area of life. But perhaps it does mean that we can discuss these questions with true openness and with love for one another. To see the yearning that each of us has and to experience a partnership in the transformation occurring for the geula.
There is a story about someone bringing a Sefer Torah into a pub and the Rebbe objected. We bring Yidden to Torah; we don’t bring Torah into a place of tumah.
At the same time, we treasure every neshama. We don’t wait for someone to become perfect before noticing and inviting them to join us in connecting to Hashem through Torah and Mitzvos and revealing their spark.
People struggle. People don’t always know what they seek, where to search, and how to search. Sometimes people don’t know themselves, their neshama, the source of their neshama, and what Hashem wants. And Torah (and by default including Chassidus) is a directive for each aspect of connecting to Hashem.
Still, not every language used on the path of this search is Torah.
For example, a therapist once told me that Internal Family Systems (IFS) is Torah. Personally, I disagree. IFS is not Torah. It is a development of the field of (somewhat alternative) psychology. Psychology is not Torah.
On the other hand, Torah is Toras Chaim and Toras Emes. If something exists in life and is true, then ultimately that truth exists within Torah.
So there are parts of psychology that have truth. Ultimately, every single thing in the world – no matter how fundamental or false – has a kernel, or more, of truth. So I assume that every single thing in the world contains at least a kernel that mirrors the Torah.
Yet, that is far different than an extrapolated assumption that the whole package (in this case a modality in psychology) is Torah.
Here is another experience:
I learned Heichaltzu with a shiur from a teacher who explained some concepts using language familiar to people who know IFS. Because I already understood that language, the explanation helped me grasp the maamar more clearly.
But once I understood the concept in the maamar, it became obvious that the maamar was saying something immeasurably deeper and far-reaching than the psychological model. The psychological language remained a useful mashal, but not more. I grasped one level of understanding of the Maamer, which revealed depth far beyond and more encompassing than that mashal.
Perhaps we can bring our chosen and unchosen questions, struggles, and longings to Torah. Perhaps we can explain Torah in language people understand. And make a distinction between the source of the language and the Torah itself.
Ultimately, I feel the question underneath much of this discussion is not therapy, psychology, self-help, or even human experience.
The question is: What are we actually looking for?
For myself, I keep coming back to the same answer: Hashem.
Not just relief, understanding, or self-knowledge. Not even ‘spiritual safety’ (which previously I experienced as my own attempt to feel safe through creating a false identity based on a supposed ‘level’ or subscription to Chassidishkeit). But Hashem – the One from whom everything comes and who is in every place.
When Elliot Lasky asked the Rebbe, “Where is Hashem?” The Rebbe first answered, “In every place.”
When he said, “I know,” and asked again, the Rebbe elaborated, “In every place, in everything, in a tree, in a stone.”
Finally, he asked again, “I know, but where?” The Rebbe answered, “In your heart, if this is how you are asking.”
If we begin there, our discussions can look different. More genuine searching and openness, shown Ahavas Yisroel, genuine and joyful shakla v’tarya.
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As I was sharing this, an interesting thought crossed my mind. I feel that perhaps the recent attempted hijacking of a plane to Eretz Yisroel can serve as a useful mashal.
The cockpit may be the mind. The brain leads the heart- the passengers. The plane is the body. And yet, sometimes, the mind hijacks itself. Sometimes ideas that sound like Torah are not Torah at all. Especially if it changes the destination.
(Even when somehow behind all the confusion there are intentions which were way back when sourced in truth, a reach for spiritual experiences which originated in Hashem and were now translated into falsehoods.)
With the recent attack, the passengers needed to intervene and improvise by finding pilots to fly the plane to safety for the sake of its passengers’ eventual return home.
The world was created “Bishvil Reishis” and on the condition that the Yidden accept the Torah.
Perhaps not every psychological language is ideal – and differentiation is key.
In one of the previous articles, I commented that without Torah, as explained in Chassidus, being oriented in the world properly, a person has symptoms. And those can look emotional too. Because living with a substitute ego and sense of orientation in the world does show up in all areas – intellectual, the way things are understood and related to emotionally, and even sometimes subtly in behavior.
But those things, even if subtle, have far-reaching effects. And therapy (which requires a therapist who is properly oriented- something their required certification is unrelated to) is not always the correct, and certainly not the full, place to address that.
Similarly, the last article shared concerns that perhaps the experiences someone is coming from can impact how they orient themselves in the world, which can then affect how they understand the remedy for everything – Torah.
Ultimately, all of us are coming from a confusing experience – galus. Perhaps that is what the differentiation created by Shaklah vtarya and a farbrengen accomplishes.
Sometimes, it is vital to listen to the passengers, the heart. The mind’s cockpit will guide. Sometimes it is the heart that improvises with the ahava mesuteres- the inner knowledge of where the destination is.
May we merit to search for Hashem together, in truth, to discover and reveal Hashem in every place, and to arrive in Eretz Yisroel with the geula soon.
Chassidus is talking about the Nefesh Elokis. Psychology is discussing the Nefesh Hasichlis.
Chassidus actually discusses Nefesh Hasichlis quite a bit.
See likkutei Torah im bechukosai, same dibur hamaschil in 5700 and chaviv Adam there. And more.
If you do Yiddish, Rava chazyhe 5690 is a great place to start the journey.
Another reminder to stay humble 🙂
The question is not whether it mentions it, but what it says to do with it.
Chassidus harnesses the nefesh hasichlis for the purpose of the nefesh ho’elokis, whereas psychology celebrates the nefesh hasichlis in and of itself.
This distinction between use and purpose is essential. Without it, I don’t see how you can even begin in avodas haChassidus.
I think that’s exactly the point. The dividing line between Chassidus and Psychology isn’t which nefesh is being discussed, since Chassidus clearly addresses the nefesh hasichlis too. It’s the purpose: Chassidus engages it lisheim shamayim.
That’s a far more useful distinction than “wrong nefesh,” and one we can actually have a productive conversation about.
Reuven
Chassidus speaks to the whole person, arguably PRIMARILY to the nefesh hasichlis, and even to the nefesh habahamis. That’s why it discusses taivos so much, as you point out: Chassidus meets the person where they are so they can connect to Hashem.
The nefesh elokis itself doesn’t need fixing (see tanya perek 37). It’s a literal part of Hashem. Like Chassidus, it came into the world to transform the mind and body it inhabits.
As mentioned already in one of the other articles, confining Chassidus to specific areas might be missing the point
Yes, of course Chassidus discusses all three souls. However, its objective is that you internalize the reality of the G0dly soul. The struggles of the rational soul to be rational and healthy only concern chassidus in so far as it provides a way to be more holy. But from the perspective of the rational soul and its external commonality that all humans share, both Jewish and non-Jewish, that’s not something chassidus is concerned with as an end for itself. But that’s what psychology is; maximizing the potential of the rational soul, but not necessarily concerned with self-sacrifice. This is why they can seem to be contradictions between psychology and Chassidus.
Seems to be the response for you as well. I don’t know you, but it seems quite clear you are reading your priors into Chassidus, and seemingly, without much basis.
I’m not sure where from you are getting the idea that the rational souls struggle is to be rational. Did you actually learn the maamorim discussing Nefesh Hasichlis?
Please think about which “you” needs to internalize the reality of the nefesh elokis? Does the nefesh elokis need to internalize its own reality? Or perhaps another soul needs to internalize it?
Start from there and it will be a good hook to getting into the sugya.
Hatzlacha!
The last article (“did they all miss the point”) suggested humility, this one, suggests love. I like where this is heading.
A real takeaway for me that combines both:
Recognizing that Hashem is both everywhere and in everyone and also hidden from us at the same time reminds us to both love everyone and to be humble about OUR perspective of Hashem and His Torah
Reuven
for arguments sake lets say that chassidus is not about you and it all about hashem (whatever….), how do you think one grows by focusing every day on how you are nothing? when was the last time by the rebbes farbrengen that he encouraged an inquisitive while emphasizing how nothing the olam is, aderabah! the whole vort is your a yid you have a neshamah you have elokos! you are not stam a goy! this mitzvah is yours like mine cuz your a yid!
we re confusing we have to nefoshos we dont operate from only one of them they are mislabesh together in one another, when you do a mitzvah try not to have gavah but at the same time you from your neshmah really wants to do it lishmah, we aren’t here just to talk to heiche inyanim we are real people with real life experiences which is more than just leraning to get closer to hashem, dude! the whole thing is avodah, so you found some haskalah thats deeper, very nice, but dont forget too use mibsari echzah elokah, to acctualy try to find the elokos examples in our make up, and to work on the mikdash in ourselves to do avodah like the likutey torah of sukkus, mizbeach hachitzon and pnimi, its not just a mamar its life! lets live it! lichayim!
Tzvi S
Thank you for sharing. What came to mind from reading this-
מה אנו- what are we (‘what’ we are)
מה חיינו- what is our life (‘what’ is our life!)
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ונבונים כבלי השכל…
ומותר האדם מן הבהמה אין
כי הכל הבל
לבד הנשמה הטהורה שהיא עתידה לתקן…
What I am understanding from it (ונבונים כבלי השכל: Hashem is everything. Not הבל. The perception (I would italicize if I could) of something outside of Hashem is what is הבל. But that is what an עולם- an experience of something as separate from Hashem in order to bring Hashem into it.
Why would anyone want to feel close to Hashem?
In connection to thoughts from חסידות on מצה זו… על שום מה
So for all the people who are comfortable in השכלה and for those who might want to live it further but just don’t know how-
Is it possible to suggest specific communal steps to living the Maamer of likkutei Torah on Sukkos. It speaks about Daagos Haparnasah, and an internal vitality in living כי הוי’ אלוקים אש אכלה.
As a מזבח החיצון
A מזבח הפנימי
From what I’ve experienced: people genuinely want to see it happen. ציון במשפט תפדה- embodied and action engaged way.