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		By: avi		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64180</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64179&quot;&gt;Assimilation&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s completely irrelevant—factually, it&#039;s saving millions of Jews from assimilation, more than any kiruv organization in the world. Anything else is just noise. You try to square the circle by asking, &quot;What about the Israelis who leave Israel?&quot; Okay, what about them? They make up about 10% of Jewish Israelis overall. So, if you add the 10% who assimilate in Israel and assume that every Jew who leaves Israel assimilates, that&#039;s about 20%. Compare that to the 70–80% assimilation rate in the diaspora]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64179">Assimilation</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s completely irrelevant—factually, it&#8217;s saving millions of Jews from assimilation, more than any kiruv organization in the world. Anything else is just noise. You try to square the circle by asking, &#8220;What about the Israelis who leave Israel?&#8221; Okay, what about them? They make up about 10% of Jewish Israelis overall. So, if you add the 10% who assimilate in Israel and assume that every Jew who leaves Israel assimilates, that&#8217;s about 20%. Compare that to the 70–80% assimilation rate in the diaspora</p>
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		By: Assimilation		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64179</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assimilation rates by Israelis who leave Israel are in fact much higher than Jews living in the diaspora. Zionism has taken over their Jewish identity. The second they leave Israel there is nothing left of active Jewish life besides for some cultural holiday celebrations. Zionism is disconnecting Jews from their Jewish identity. As a chossid you should be seriously worried about that. No wonder the Rabbeiim were so opposed to the Zionist movement]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assimilation rates by Israelis who leave Israel are in fact much higher than Jews living in the diaspora. Zionism has taken over their Jewish identity. The second they leave Israel there is nothing left of active Jewish life besides for some cultural holiday celebrations. Zionism is disconnecting Jews from their Jewish identity. As a chossid you should be seriously worried about that. No wonder the Rabbeiim were so opposed to the Zionist movement</p>
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		By: avi		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64178</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 07:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64174&quot;&gt;Chutzpah&lt;/a&gt;.

read what I wrote I addressed your point Zionism has a clear definition today: if you support the idea, you&#039;re a Zionist—period. Anything beyond that is just wordplay. The Rebbe opposed associating Zionism with the beginning of the Geulah, and the Rebbeim viewed the movement as a secularizing force, which historically, it was. However, today, Zionism means one thing and one thing only: do you believe the Jewish people have a right to a Jewish state in Eretz Yisrael? If so, not only am I a Zionist, but so are you—and probably everyone you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64174">Chutzpah</a>.</p>
<p>read what I wrote I addressed your point Zionism has a clear definition today: if you support the idea, you&#8217;re a Zionist—period. Anything beyond that is just wordplay. The Rebbe opposed associating Zionism with the beginning of the Geulah, and the Rebbeim viewed the movement as a secularizing force, which historically, it was. However, today, Zionism means one thing and one thing only: do you believe the Jewish people have a right to a Jewish state in Eretz Yisrael? If so, not only am I a Zionist, but so are you—and probably everyone you know.</p>
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		By: Like the Israeli Government		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64175</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Like the Israeli Government]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 02:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that the Rebbe was opposed of us taking part of such organizations due to us being a political or because of the problematic nature of such programs.

In my opinion, the Rebbe would have had the same opinion about joining these things, just like being part of the Israeli political process, and that is very simple, we are part of it, and we reap its benefits and express our right of voting, but yet, don&#039;t take any leading effort and don&#039;t officially in a public way align with a specific party, but rather whatever we do privately in the ballot box stays in the ballot box.

I don&#039;t see a any difference with the WZO, being somehow worse then the Israeli government, besides for saying a nonsense Jerusalem platform, which for all intent and purposes is meaningless.

I have yet to see any source about the Rebbe&#039;s view on this matter. I am not saying that there is not one, but i have not seen a source. It seems to me, that the issue never came up for whatever reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that the Rebbe was opposed of us taking part of such organizations due to us being a political or because of the problematic nature of such programs.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the Rebbe would have had the same opinion about joining these things, just like being part of the Israeli political process, and that is very simple, we are part of it, and we reap its benefits and express our right of voting, but yet, don&#8217;t take any leading effort and don&#8217;t officially in a public way align with a specific party, but rather whatever we do privately in the ballot box stays in the ballot box.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see a any difference with the WZO, being somehow worse then the Israeli government, besides for saying a nonsense Jerusalem platform, which for all intent and purposes is meaningless.</p>
<p>I have yet to see any source about the Rebbe&#8217;s view on this matter. I am not saying that there is not one, but i have not seen a source. It seems to me, that the issue never came up for whatever reason.</p>
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		By: Chutzpah		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64174</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 01:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64169&quot;&gt;avi&lt;/a&gt;.

That has nothing to do with being a Zionist and as chabad we follow the rebbe not what we think you could say your pro the idea but you can&#039;t call yourself a Zionist r&quot;l]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64169">avi</a>.</p>
<p>That has nothing to do with being a Zionist and as chabad we follow the rebbe not what we think you could say your pro the idea but you can&#8217;t call yourself a Zionist r&#8221;l</p>
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		By: avi		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64171</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why isn’t the moral and ethical issue being considered here? Clearly, the organization and its donors expect and assume that you define yourself as a Zionist if you&#039;re using their platform and allocating their funds. If you don’t identify as a Zionist, what right do you have to use their influence and money? This is geneivas daas and literal geneiva. Doesn’t simple morality  and Halcha matter also?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn’t the moral and ethical issue being considered here? Clearly, the organization and its donors expect and assume that you define yourself as a Zionist if you&#8217;re using their platform and allocating their funds. If you don’t identify as a Zionist, what right do you have to use their influence and money? This is geneivas daas and literal geneiva. Doesn’t simple morality  and Halcha matter also?</p>
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		By: CH		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64170</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 01:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64167&quot;&gt;You misunderstand&lt;/a&gt;.

If it was ONLY about money, the decision would be an easy one. We are not selling our principles

But as explained in the article, and in the comments, there are decisions and votes that are made about mixed events, not allowing separate events, support for Women of the wall, mihu yehudi, stores being forced to open on shabbos, and more

The delegates can influence these decisions]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64167">You misunderstand</a>.</p>
<p>If it was ONLY about money, the decision would be an easy one. We are not selling our principles</p>
<p>But as explained in the article, and in the comments, there are decisions and votes that are made about mixed events, not allowing separate events, support for Women of the wall, mihu yehudi, stores being forced to open on shabbos, and more</p>
<p>The delegates can influence these decisions</p>
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		By: avi		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64169</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 00:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m Lubavitch and a Zionist. Today, Zionism simply means that the Jewish people have a right to their own state in their ancestral homeland. If you believe that, you’re a Zionist, period.  Whether it was the best idea or misguided in its origins doesn’t change its current definition.  Everything else is just sophistry and means nothing. When it comes to Jewish identity, consider the difference in assimilation rates—over 70% or 80% in the diaspora versus just 10% to 20% among Israelis. So yes, Zionism is, in fact, tied to Jewish identity. As a Chossid, I celebrate that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m Lubavitch and a Zionist. Today, Zionism simply means that the Jewish people have a right to their own state in their ancestral homeland. If you believe that, you’re a Zionist, period.  Whether it was the best idea or misguided in its origins doesn’t change its current definition.  Everything else is just sophistry and means nothing. When it comes to Jewish identity, consider the difference in assimilation rates—over 70% or 80% in the diaspora versus just 10% to 20% among Israelis. So yes, Zionism is, in fact, tied to Jewish identity. As a Chossid, I celebrate that.</p>
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		By: You misunderstand		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 21:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64157&quot;&gt;Zionist Congress?&lt;/a&gt;.

Most people are unfamiliar with this process and so it&#039;s easy to misunderstand the purpose of the Congress. The Congress has debates and votes on issues that are important to the Jewish world. The outcomes are later passed on to the Knesset and are taken very seriously as the opinions of World Jewry for them to act on. Topics like Mehu Yehudi, Shleimus Ha&#039;aretz, Jewish Education, egalitarian prayer services at the Koisel, Shabbos observance etc. etc. The point of being involved is not to c&quot;v be Machshir zionism but to defend and promote our values and to make a Kiddush Hashem in the process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64157">Zionist Congress?</a>.</p>
<p>Most people are unfamiliar with this process and so it&#8217;s easy to misunderstand the purpose of the Congress. The Congress has debates and votes on issues that are important to the Jewish world. The outcomes are later passed on to the Knesset and are taken very seriously as the opinions of World Jewry for them to act on. Topics like Mehu Yehudi, Shleimus Ha&#8217;aretz, Jewish Education, egalitarian prayer services at the Koisel, Shabbos observance etc. etc. The point of being involved is not to c&#8221;v be Machshir zionism but to defend and promote our values and to make a Kiddush Hashem in the process.</p>
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		By: Yes if you have acess to such		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yes if you have acess to such]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64162&quot;&gt;Please share&lt;/a&gt;.

Please post, thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64162">Please share</a>.</p>
<p>Please post, thank you!</p>
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		By: It's about values. Chabad values. Not $		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64164</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It's about values. Chabad values. Not $]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 18:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64157&quot;&gt;Zionist Congress?&lt;/a&gt;.

Where does the article say we should vote because of &quot;financial benefits&quot;?
The article says &quot;This includes policies affecting the observance of Shabbos and kashrus, standards of geirus, and the sanctity of Eretz Yisroel’s holiest sites. It also includes policies that affect Jewish education in Eretz Yisroel and across the world.&quot;
The Eretz Hakodesh platform &quot;promises to represent true Torah values and respect Torah standards of Shabbos, the Kosel, kashrus, conversion, marriage and divorce. Furthermore, it believes that classical Jewish values of Torah as taught for millennia should play a central role in modern Israel.”

The article makes one indirect reference to the overall budget of the WZC. It makes no suggestion that we should vote for purposes of funding. Only to positively influence &quot;Frum/Torah&quot; values within the WZC and wherever it has influence...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64157">Zionist Congress?</a>.</p>
<p>Where does the article say we should vote because of &#8220;financial benefits&#8221;?<br />
The article says &#8220;This includes policies affecting the observance of Shabbos and kashrus, standards of geirus, and the sanctity of Eretz Yisroel’s holiest sites. It also includes policies that affect Jewish education in Eretz Yisroel and across the world.&#8221;<br />
The Eretz Hakodesh platform &#8220;promises to represent true Torah values and respect Torah standards of Shabbos, the Kosel, kashrus, conversion, marriage and divorce. Furthermore, it believes that classical Jewish values of Torah as taught for millennia should play a central role in modern Israel.”</p>
<p>The article makes one indirect reference to the overall budget of the WZC. It makes no suggestion that we should vote for purposes of funding. Only to positively influence &#8220;Frum/Torah&#8221; values within the WZC and wherever it has influence&#8230;</p>
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		By: Please share		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Please share]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 18:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64161&quot;&gt;MM&lt;/a&gt;.

Please post where this letter can be seen.

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64161">MM</a>.</p>
<p>Please post where this letter can be seen.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: MM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 18:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A letter of the rebbe was recently published with a clear directive not to participate in these elections]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A letter of the rebbe was recently published with a clear directive not to participate in these elections</p>
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		By: CH Resident		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/world-zionist-congress-where-do-we-stand/#comment-64159</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 17:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The article is quite informative, but which rabonim or mashpiim are giving any guidance?
Are we to sign on to the &quot;zionist principles&quot; as stated in the registration process?
I can&#039;t imagine a scenario where the Rebbe OKs this.
Maybe to encourage others to get involved, but if you are a chossid, I&#039;m not so sure]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is quite informative, but which rabonim or mashpiim are giving any guidance?<br />
Are we to sign on to the &#8220;zionist principles&#8221; as stated in the registration process?<br />
I can&#8217;t imagine a scenario where the Rebbe OKs this.<br />
Maybe to encourage others to get involved, but if you are a chossid, I&#8217;m not so sure</p>
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		By: Zionist Congress?		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zionist Congress?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 16:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What business can a Chosid of the Rebbe have with such an organization, just the name should tell it all, A Chossid cannot be associated with this under no circumstances.

The comparison to voting in the governmental elections is ludicrous, a government is like running a Kehilla and we need to see to it that the Kehilla should have their needs attended to. Besides, they don&#039;t call themselves elections for the Zionist ideal or State, they are voting for the Knesset which is the government. But the Zionist congress? this is about the ideal of Zionism, can a Chossid participate in shaping the ideal of Zionism? This is the original sin against which our holy Rebbe&#039;s fought against and disassociated themselves from. 

And the excuse of voting to be able to determine financial benefits for Chabad is the antithesis of everything the Rebbe stood for and taught us all the years, especially when he stood up to the government on matters of Mihu Yehudi and the liberated territories, and the Rebbe was threatened that they will hold back funding, and the Rebbe clearly said that anybody who will be influenced by such threats has no connection to Lubavitch. 

So frankly if there is anybody who tries to permit participation in these elections is doing it for financial reasons as articulated in this article and therefore he has no connection to Lubavitch and the Rebbe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What business can a Chosid of the Rebbe have with such an organization, just the name should tell it all, A Chossid cannot be associated with this under no circumstances.</p>
<p>The comparison to voting in the governmental elections is ludicrous, a government is like running a Kehilla and we need to see to it that the Kehilla should have their needs attended to. Besides, they don&#8217;t call themselves elections for the Zionist ideal or State, they are voting for the Knesset which is the government. But the Zionist congress? this is about the ideal of Zionism, can a Chossid participate in shaping the ideal of Zionism? This is the original sin against which our holy Rebbe&#8217;s fought against and disassociated themselves from. </p>
<p>And the excuse of voting to be able to determine financial benefits for Chabad is the antithesis of everything the Rebbe stood for and taught us all the years, especially when he stood up to the government on matters of Mihu Yehudi and the liberated territories, and the Rebbe was threatened that they will hold back funding, and the Rebbe clearly said that anybody who will be influenced by such threats has no connection to Lubavitch. </p>
<p>So frankly if there is anybody who tries to permit participation in these elections is doing it for financial reasons as articulated in this article and therefore he has no connection to Lubavitch and the Rebbe.</p>
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