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		By: That goes hand in hand with what I said		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24504</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[That goes hand in hand with what I said]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2023 05:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24352&quot;&gt;Frum Professional&lt;/a&gt;.

Aderabah! So go! My whole point was to go and find help and if you need it, don&#039;t hold back heeling from those that need if you want one with your hashkofos- good, so find one like that there is many options. My point was don&#039;t cancel heeling from those that need because you don&#039;t like their hashkafos,find one you like...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24352">Frum Professional</a>.</p>
<p>Aderabah! So go! My whole point was to go and find help and if you need it, don&#8217;t hold back heeling from those that need if you want one with your hashkofos- good, so find one like that there is many options. My point was don&#8217;t cancel heeling from those that need because you don&#8217;t like their hashkafos,find one you like&#8230;</p>
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		By: Frum Professional		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24352</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frum Professional]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2023 15:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24279&quot;&gt;why not go to a frum one?&lt;/a&gt;.

When it&#039;s an issue of &quot;mental health&quot; then the Torah gives permission and ability to the doctor to heal. Meaning, when it becomes a &quot;mental health issue&quot; then we say the same thing we say about a regular doctor that the Torah tells us to go to the doctor who will be the Shliach to bring Hashem&#039;s healing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24279">why not go to a frum one?</a>.</p>
<p>When it&#8217;s an issue of &#8220;mental health&#8221; then the Torah gives permission and ability to the doctor to heal. Meaning, when it becomes a &#8220;mental health issue&#8221; then we say the same thing we say about a regular doctor that the Torah tells us to go to the doctor who will be the Shliach to bring Hashem&#8217;s healing.</p>
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		By: Different Roles		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Different Roles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 20:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24286&quot;&gt;&quot;Lubavitcher coaches&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

A mashpia can be a very simple person who doesn’t typically think of him or herself as a professional coach of any sort. Once there is that official relationship of mashpia and mushpa, a lot of clarity starts happening as a blessing.  If a frum person takes a dating coaching course and then becomes a coach, that’s a different role.  If he or she is Lubavitch, he/she will know when something is a mashpia question. Mashpias and professionals know  when something is a question for a Rav.  Sometimes a Rav will answer a question with “That’s a question for your mashpia.”  A mashpia typically is not also a dating coach and the lady Mashpias are certainly not Rabbis.  Sometimes the male Mashpias are committed to the Rebbe’s ways, but don’t have smicha. Mashpias are sometimes very hard to get in touch with but will try because the mashpia/mushpa system is a directive of the Rebbe. It’s good to do things for one’s mashpia like daven on his or her behalf, contribute to whatever Tzeddukah is important to him or her etc.  A professional, on the other hand, has to be paid.  It’s a different role.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24286">&#8220;Lubavitcher coaches&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>A mashpia can be a very simple person who doesn’t typically think of him or herself as a professional coach of any sort. Once there is that official relationship of mashpia and mushpa, a lot of clarity starts happening as a blessing.  If a frum person takes a dating coaching course and then becomes a coach, that’s a different role.  If he or she is Lubavitch, he/she will know when something is a mashpia question. Mashpias and professionals know  when something is a question for a Rav.  Sometimes a Rav will answer a question with “That’s a question for your mashpia.”  A mashpia typically is not also a dating coach and the lady Mashpias are certainly not Rabbis.  Sometimes the male Mashpias are committed to the Rebbe’s ways, but don’t have smicha. Mashpias are sometimes very hard to get in touch with but will try because the mashpia/mushpa system is a directive of the Rebbe. It’s good to do things for one’s mashpia like daven on his or her behalf, contribute to whatever Tzeddukah is important to him or her etc.  A professional, on the other hand, has to be paid.  It’s a different role.</p>
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		By: "Lubavitcher coaches"		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24286</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA["Lubavitcher coaches"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 18:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24284&quot;&gt;The problem&lt;/a&gt;.

What makes someone a &quot;Lubavitcher coach&quot;? Even if they learn Chassidus, if their coaching is based on chochmas yavan, then it&#039;s not Lubavitch. If their guidance is pure Chassidus, then they&#039;re a mashpia, not a &quot;coach.&quot;

And who decides who is a worthy mashpia? There are plenty of mashpiim out there who understand people and care. The problem is that people are willing to pay $100-200 for a session with a &quot;coach,&quot; but would never consider paying that to a maspia since they work l&#039;sheim Shomayim... Well, how long do you expect that to work for?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24284">The problem</a>.</p>
<p>What makes someone a &#8220;Lubavitcher coach&#8221;? Even if they learn Chassidus, if their coaching is based on chochmas yavan, then it&#8217;s not Lubavitch. If their guidance is pure Chassidus, then they&#8217;re a mashpia, not a &#8220;coach.&#8221;</p>
<p>And who decides who is a worthy mashpia? There are plenty of mashpiim out there who understand people and care. The problem is that people are willing to pay $100-200 for a session with a &#8220;coach,&#8221; but would never consider paying that to a maspia since they work l&#8217;sheim Shomayim&#8230; Well, how long do you expect that to work for?</p>
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		By: The problem		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24284</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The problem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 18:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is not coaches from the outside. It&#039;s our own lubavitcher coaches AND mashpiim who are giving misguided advice specifically about shidduchim.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is not coaches from the outside. It&#8217;s our own lubavitcher coaches AND mashpiim who are giving misguided advice specifically about shidduchim.</p>
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		By: why not go to a frum one?		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24279</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[why not go to a frum one?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 16:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m having difficulty understanding this article from the rav shelita, 
it seems to me there is Seemingly a contradiction in the article;
on one side if someone is having a serious issue then you go to mental health professional, and on  the other side of the coin; if one has &quot;regular&quot; issues then they should not go to the chachmei yavan... 
my question is: how can they be chachmei yavan and have /teach hanachos and morels that are &quot;chochmas yavan&quot; and then when someone has an issue all of a sudden its mutar all the kefirah that they say?
Therefore I would venture to say that when someone has a crisis they should go to (or prefer to go to) a frum health professional  (or at least &#039;mamin&#039; that shares the same values). 
for after all how can you get real help for an issue if the practitioner thinks you are fine how you are...
 if so then if its not an &quot;issue&quot; but rater &quot;just&quot; life&#039;s up and downs, I don&#039;t see why it will hurt if you got a frum person for advice that has Torah values (and even chassidishe) and he has time for you because you book a slot and doesn&#039;t just tell you to learn something that address that issue . but what, because he has a few letters after his name it would be an issue?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having difficulty understanding this article from the rav shelita,<br />
it seems to me there is Seemingly a contradiction in the article;<br />
on one side if someone is having a serious issue then you go to mental health professional, and on  the other side of the coin; if one has &#8220;regular&#8221; issues then they should not go to the chachmei yavan&#8230;<br />
my question is: how can they be chachmei yavan and have /teach hanachos and morels that are &#8220;chochmas yavan&#8221; and then when someone has an issue all of a sudden its mutar all the kefirah that they say?<br />
Therefore I would venture to say that when someone has a crisis they should go to (or prefer to go to) a frum health professional  (or at least &#8216;mamin&#8217; that shares the same values).<br />
for after all how can you get real help for an issue if the practitioner thinks you are fine how you are&#8230;<br />
 if so then if its not an &#8220;issue&#8221; but rater &#8220;just&#8221; life&#8217;s up and downs, I don&#8217;t see why it will hurt if you got a frum person for advice that has Torah values (and even chassidishe) and he has time for you because you book a slot and doesn&#8217;t just tell you to learn something that address that issue . but what, because he has a few letters after his name it would be an issue?</p>
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		By: Ask the Rav 2		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24274</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ask the Rav 2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 14:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24272&quot;&gt;Very true but hard to reach the right person&lt;/a&gt;.

But they only deal with Halacha lmaase (which is huge) they don’t deal with mashpia/ growth/ healing questions necessarily]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24272">Very true but hard to reach the right person</a>.</p>
<p>But they only deal with Halacha lmaase (which is huge) they don’t deal with mashpia/ growth/ healing questions necessarily</p>
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		By: Ask the Rav		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24273</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ask the Rav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24272&quot;&gt;Very true but hard to reach the right person&lt;/a&gt;.

I have the same issue of a community Rav who doesn’t want to be bothered with many questions on Halacha. I’ve asked ask the Rav recently and had a great experience. Quick responses. Literally amazing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24272">Very true but hard to reach the right person</a>.</p>
<p>I have the same issue of a community Rav who doesn’t want to be bothered with many questions on Halacha. I’ve asked ask the Rav recently and had a great experience. Quick responses. Literally amazing!</p>
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		By: Very true but hard to reach the right person		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24272</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Very true but hard to reach the right person]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 12:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Torah does contain everything, however finding the right person to speak to or even getting through to the Rav/ mashpia/ chosson teacher isn&#039;t for the feint hearted. 
I know rabbonim and mashpiam are super busy but they are hard to reach as well. A few weeks of incessant calling and not getting through for one important question...I don&#039;t mind paying for 5 mins but there&#039;s isnt any organized way of getting through to the right Rav for the the right question. 
Or chasing rabbonim for maaros. 
I know in CH there are so many rabbonim available and so many systems in place but all around the US isn&#039;t the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Torah does contain everything, however finding the right person to speak to or even getting through to the Rav/ mashpia/ chosson teacher isn&#8217;t for the feint hearted.<br />
I know rabbonim and mashpiam are super busy but they are hard to reach as well. A few weeks of incessant calling and not getting through for one important question&#8230;I don&#8217;t mind paying for 5 mins but there&#8217;s isnt any organized way of getting through to the right Rav for the the right question.<br />
Or chasing rabbonim for maaros.<br />
I know in CH there are so many rabbonim available and so many systems in place but all around the US isn&#8217;t the same.</p>
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		By: Following		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24271</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Following]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 12:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’ve spoken to many people about this and they feel that they don’t know where to turn within Torah, find it hard to find relatable mashpiim etc.

It would be a great service if a list/ website could be set up with mashpiim/ mashpios who could either be spoken to for free, or booked on a regular basis for payment, with a list of what they specialize in/ relate to, and most importantly, a review list of verifiable people who can share if it helped (or not maybe lashon horah?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve spoken to many people about this and they feel that they don’t know where to turn within Torah, find it hard to find relatable mashpiim etc.</p>
<p>It would be a great service if a list/ website could be set up with mashpiim/ mashpios who could either be spoken to for free, or booked on a regular basis for payment, with a list of what they specialize in/ relate to, and most importantly, a review list of verifiable people who can share if it helped (or not maybe lashon horah?)</p>
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		By: Parents		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/we-dont-need-coaches-to-teach-us-about-relationships/#comment-24255</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Parents]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 01:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But in a typical case, a bochur is going on a shidduch and he’s confused, for that he has a rav, a mashpia, a moreh derech.&quot;

I think parents is missing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But in a typical case, a bochur is going on a shidduch and he’s confused, for that he has a rav, a mashpia, a moreh derech.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think parents is missing.</p>
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