You saw the word “Volozhin” and jumped to conclusions, rather than reading what I actually wrote. (What this says about the quality of the education you received is left as an exercise for the reader.) You’re talking about the closure of the Volozhin yeshivah in 1892, in the times of the Netziv; I’m talking about an attempt against the chadorim a full generation earlier, in the times of R. Itzele.

I have heard the comparison to the Volozhon yeshiva made many times in this sort of discussion and I am sorry to say you are citing a revisionist historical perspective. Historians have shown that Volozhon offered a well-rounded curriculum, but the Netziv was right to push back against the decree of the Tsarists because it demanded they teach secular instruction from morning till afternoon and the yeshiva would have to close at nightfall, which practically meant no time for learning Torah. They mamish would have ceased being a yeshiva in that case. Here, nobody is trying to prevent yeshivas from teaching leimudei kodesh from 8 or 9am until 3 or 4 pm every day. It’s a little ridiculous to compare the current situation with Tsarist Russia for so many reasons. Yidden have had more freedom to practice our religion here in America than nearly any other era in the history of galus. If nothing else, we can express our Hakaras Hatov for that by teaching our children english.

No, a taxation policy is a policy that determines what the taxpayers have to pay, not what the government chooses to use it on. And what does public assistance have to do with anything? Do you realize the vast difference between poverty, which is an unfortunately necessarily evil, and chinuch of tinokos shel beis rabban, which is what keeps the world running?

And fine, let’s not compare with the Greeks and the Romans. How about the Russians, then? In the 1840s and ’50s they tried to reform Jewish education, and the Tzemach Tzedek of Lubavitch and R. Itzele Volozhiner fought vigorously against that. Why should they have done so, when according to you it wouldn’t have made them any less frum, etc.?

The Rebbe was strongly against secular education and established cheder Oholei Torah that should be al taharas hakodesh without any secular studies. The Rebbe spoke publicly about how secular studies in school was unnecessary and harmful to their neshama.

If you want to side with hedonism took a different position, you can do so. But it wouldn’t be right to quote that to Chabad…

Well, AH, this is a taxation policy, is it not? Public funding for schools is paid for by our taxes. So is public assistance, which I like to think we would both agree the goal would be to ensure that as few people as possible rely upon it.

Once again, I implore you and others to stop comparing this issue to the Greeks and Romans, yemach shemam. Nobody is trying to stop Torah education here, and the proof is that over 95% of yeshivas don’t have an issue with the legal requirement to provide instruction in English. I went to a litvish yeshivish yeshiva, and having the ability to pass math and english standardized testing did not make me any less frum, in fact it helped me later in life as I am now able to succeed in the professional world and provide for myself and my family, B.H.

Rhetoric such as yours is inflammatory: there is unfortunately more than enough antisemitism in the world that we should be focused on stopping it instead of trying to lump everything we don’t fully agree with as being antisemitic or anti-Torah.

You need a little more lomdus. Whether dina d’malchusa dina applies outside of taxation policies is debated.

And no, it’s not just these two yeshivos; if this isn’t nipped in the bud, it will spread to others, ch”v. You know, the Greeks and Romans didn’t start by outlawing all of Torah either.

Urban public schools are happy to register more children/receive more tax payer dollars. They will not feel flooded when extras sign up in this school or that, spread across different neighborhoods.

In Monroe or Sqver that can work because it’s every child in one yeshiva school system arriving at a small suburban district’s public school that is not accustomed to accommodating extra hundreds of children.