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		By: D.Y.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2022 02:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Concerning Chossonim and Kallahs after the engagement party until the wedding:

First of all,  the Rebbe said that they should not take pictures together and especially not at any photo shop either.  

Secondly, the Rebbe objected to an engaged Chossan and Kallah even flying on the same plane together - to the extent that because of it the Rebbe refused to be the mesader kiddushin at their wedding despite their claim to the Rebbe that they didn&#039;t know it was unacceptable. 

Thirdly, the Rebbe opposed any meeting between them altogether. 
Despite the story when Rabbi Leible Groner was a chooson where the Rebbe told him that he could meet not more than once a week  - that was back then in 1954 when the situation was half normal and people were more decent. However, already in 1962 apparently when the Rebbe saw what was happening with all the hefkerus and breeches in tznius/yichud by engaged couples the Rebbe took off all the customary wedding date restrictions of not getting married the second half of every month, (except Adar,Elul &#038; Kislev where the whole month was mazaldik) Lag Ba&#039;omer, shloshes yemey hagbala before Shavuos - and said that it&#039;s not proper for Jews and especially not for chossidim to meet before the wedding; they should concise the time in between as much as possible and just get married asap. 
See the Rebbe&#039;s letter printed in Shaarey Halacha uminhog chelek daled page 92

Holding just before purim here is another story furthering the issue.  

Reb Yeshaya Hertzel relates: 
As a choson, I was aware of the Rebbe’s 
directive not to meet the kallah during 
the engagement period, so we never met. However, when Purim came, my family managed to convince me that it’s alright if she joins us in a family setting for the seudah, since she will sit at a separate table. Since I conceded regarding Purim, as Pesach approached I was pressured again to have my kallah come for a yom tov meal. I wrote in to the Rebbe asking what to do, and received the following response: “Al 
horishonim onu mitzta’arim vechulu v’ata ba l’hosif aleihen?!” [“We are still pained over the earlier ones, and now you want to add to them” – Rashi on Shemos 18:2], meaning that the Rebbe was still pained from the Purim incident, and it was obviously out of 
the question.
(Bakodesh Chazisicha, page 85)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning Chossonim and Kallahs after the engagement party until the wedding:</p>
<p>First of all,  the Rebbe said that they should not take pictures together and especially not at any photo shop either.  </p>
<p>Secondly, the Rebbe objected to an engaged Chossan and Kallah even flying on the same plane together &#8211; to the extent that because of it the Rebbe refused to be the mesader kiddushin at their wedding despite their claim to the Rebbe that they didn&#8217;t know it was unacceptable. </p>
<p>Thirdly, the Rebbe opposed any meeting between them altogether.<br />
Despite the story when Rabbi Leible Groner was a chooson where the Rebbe told him that he could meet not more than once a week  &#8211; that was back then in 1954 when the situation was half normal and people were more decent. However, already in 1962 apparently when the Rebbe saw what was happening with all the hefkerus and breeches in tznius/yichud by engaged couples the Rebbe took off all the customary wedding date restrictions of not getting married the second half of every month, (except Adar,Elul &amp; Kislev where the whole month was mazaldik) Lag Ba&#8217;omer, shloshes yemey hagbala before Shavuos &#8211; and said that it&#8217;s not proper for Jews and especially not for chossidim to meet before the wedding; they should concise the time in between as much as possible and just get married asap.<br />
See the Rebbe&#8217;s letter printed in Shaarey Halacha uminhog chelek daled page 92</p>
<p>Holding just before purim here is another story furthering the issue.  </p>
<p>Reb Yeshaya Hertzel relates:<br />
As a choson, I was aware of the Rebbe’s<br />
directive not to meet the kallah during<br />
the engagement period, so we never met. However, when Purim came, my family managed to convince me that it’s alright if she joins us in a family setting for the seudah, since she will sit at a separate table. Since I conceded regarding Purim, as Pesach approached I was pressured again to have my kallah come for a yom tov meal. I wrote in to the Rebbe asking what to do, and received the following response: “Al<br />
horishonim onu mitzta’arim vechulu v’ata ba l’hosif aleihen?!” [“We are still pained over the earlier ones, and now you want to add to them” – Rashi on Shemos 18:2], meaning that the Rebbe was still pained from the Purim incident, and it was obviously out of<br />
the question.<br />
(Bakodesh Chazisicha, page 85)</p>
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		By: Husband and father in late 20’s		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Husband and father in late 20’s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 15:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11489&quot;&gt;Shlucha&lt;/a&gt;.

I think having it taught properly would be very valuable. I would say that personally my “sensitivity” is higher than average, but I can’t say I was ever taught any clear guidelines about these things. It’s important to explain our values clearly to the next generation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11489">Shlucha</a>.</p>
<p>I think having it taught properly would be very valuable. I would say that personally my “sensitivity” is higher than average, but I can’t say I was ever taught any clear guidelines about these things. It’s important to explain our values clearly to the next generation.</p>
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		By: Scrolled		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11498</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was scrolling through a photographer’s social media feed to see his work, and was horrified by some of the pictures, of apparently chassidishe couples. 
It’s important to understand that halochos of what’s permitted and what’s not permitted and what’s appropriate and what’s not between genders are designed to PROTECT us from our base instincts. They are there for our own good. And are there to protect us from grave  sin. 
To the young photographers out there, don’t play with fire. It’s the Aibishter who provides you with parnosah, doing what He wants will only bring you brochos. 
Hatzlocha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was scrolling through a photographer’s social media feed to see his work, and was horrified by some of the pictures, of apparently chassidishe couples.<br />
It’s important to understand that halochos of what’s permitted and what’s not permitted and what’s appropriate and what’s not between genders are designed to PROTECT us from our base instincts. They are there for our own good. And are there to protect us from grave  sin.<br />
To the young photographers out there, don’t play with fire. It’s the Aibishter who provides you with parnosah, doing what He wants will only bring you brochos.<br />
Hatzlocha.</p>
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		By: Eliyahu		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11497</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 12:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Mrs. Cunin. 
Very well written and right on target.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mrs. Cunin.<br />
Very well written and right on target.</p>
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		By: A fellow lubavitcher		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11495</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A fellow lubavitcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for posting! Dvarim hayotzim min halev and well written on a topic that is sorely necessary!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for posting! Dvarim hayotzim min halev and well written on a topic that is sorely necessary!</p>
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		By: Impressed		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11492</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Impressed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 05:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So impressed with the humility in your writing. Delivered your point, without rebuke. Genuine care, without a trace of judgement, is found in every word. Mrs cunin, please write more!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So impressed with the humility in your writing. Delivered your point, without rebuke. Genuine care, without a trace of judgement, is found in every word. Mrs cunin, please write more!</p>
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		By: Rochel		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11490</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rochel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for taking the time to write this up with kindness and sensitivity]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for taking the time to write this up with kindness and sensitivity</p>
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		By: Shlucha		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11489</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shlucha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have felt this way for a long time. 
Social media destroyed our sensitivity of what’s personal and what’s public. What’s permitted and what’s not permitted. We need to consciously work to bring them back. 
We should also note that there are halachos that are being ignored:
1) physical contact between male and female before married is FORBIDDEN. 
2) public displays of affection (even when permitted) awaken the yetzer in others and therefore NOT PERMITTED. 
I wonder if the younger generation even understand what is appropriate to send to the Rebbe? Maybe we need to explain what that means.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have felt this way for a long time.<br />
Social media destroyed our sensitivity of what’s personal and what’s public. What’s permitted and what’s not permitted. We need to consciously work to bring them back.<br />
We should also note that there are halachos that are being ignored:<br />
1) physical contact between male and female before married is FORBIDDEN.<br />
2) public displays of affection (even when permitted) awaken the yetzer in others and therefore NOT PERMITTED.<br />
I wonder if the younger generation even understand what is appropriate to send to the Rebbe? Maybe we need to explain what that means.</p>
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		By: Rochel		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/is-this-a-picture-you-would-send-to-the-rebbe/#comment-11488</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Totally agree but if the women of her home doesnt do her role by standing up for true Torah values then everything falls....and the next generation falls..... And throughout the generations it unfortunately does not get better.... its upto the women!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree but if the women of her home doesnt do her role by standing up for true Torah values then everything falls&#8230;.and the next generation falls&#8230;.. And throughout the generations it unfortunately does not get better&#8230;. its upto the women!</p>
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		By: Chana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow! Thank you for being brave to speak out and sign your name on such an important issue. I&#039;ve been thinking this for a while, but sometimes it almost feels like your the crazy one bc even &quot;chassidishe&quot; people are doing this so its easy to think maybe I&#039;m just being extreme...
Glad to see there still is people with sensitivity out there when it comes to posting pictures and social media in general. Things have really gotten far and fallen a lot in the last few years, maybe its time we rethink our standards as chassidim of the Rebbe!
Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and bringing awareness and sensitivity back!
Moshiach Now!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Thank you for being brave to speak out and sign your name on such an important issue. I&#8217;ve been thinking this for a while, but sometimes it almost feels like your the crazy one bc even &#8220;chassidishe&#8221; people are doing this so its easy to think maybe I&#8217;m just being extreme&#8230;<br />
Glad to see there still is people with sensitivity out there when it comes to posting pictures and social media in general. Things have really gotten far and fallen a lot in the last few years, maybe its time we rethink our standards as chassidim of the Rebbe!<br />
Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and bringing awareness and sensitivity back!<br />
Moshiach Now!</p>
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		By: Devorah kay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devorah kay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An article long overdue. Thanks for bringing this awareness to the masses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An article long overdue. Thanks for bringing this awareness to the masses.</p>
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		By: Sara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 01:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank You! I could not agree more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You! I could not agree more.</p>
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