Comments on: Is It Time to Rethink the Bochur-Family Relationship? https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship News, Views, Inspiration Sun, 19 Feb 2023 17:46:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Shulchan aruch https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20246 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 17:46:36 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20246 It is a clear halacha in hilchos talmud torah that learning supersedes kibud av. I don’t know why a proof needs to be brought for this

]]> By: Not convinced https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20243 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:25:25 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20243 The author didn’t provide solid basis for his argument.

The fact that a husband should be with his wife and (young) children has no bearing on how a bochur in yeshiva should behave.

Yes the Rebbe visited his mother daily. The Rebbe wasn’t a yeshiva bochur.

]]> By: Agree https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20242 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:24:21 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20242 In reply to weak sources.

Was takeh wondering how these sources prove anything…

]]> By: אלו ואלו https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20241 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 05:48:24 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20241 i believe that both points are true, and one doesn’t take away from the other, its important that a bochur has a healthy relationship with his family and on the other hand its important for the bochurs growth in yeshiva especially in his yunger years to be in a ruach and sorounded by a makif of torah, yiras shomayim and avodas hashem, which how ever good his home is, it does not come in place to a a ruach of yeshiva.
its not black or white and in every situation you have to see whats more beneficial for the bochur.

]]> By: weak sources https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20240 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 05:11:57 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20240 we must assume that nothing in the tomchei temimim chinuch changes, unless clearly specified by the rebbe.

the sources rabbi avtzon brought are very weak. the change in policy for flights was clearly due to the change in pricing and practicality of travel. having a full family go on shlichus, and the rebbes personal kibbud ov v’eim are both simply not connected to the discussion.

therefore, the merit of having a bochur fully immersed in yeshiva has not been dimminished.

on the contrary, anyone in touch with todays homes knows that most bochrims homes are much more risky than the “ism’s” of yesteryear.

]]> By: Yasser koach https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20239 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 03:43:22 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20239 Thank you for this most important article. Very important and practical.

]]> By: מרוב פשיטותם לא ניתן להאמר https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20237 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 03:17:22 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20237 A. The fact that a parent child relationship is vital is patently obvious. Saying something obvious detracts from the authors intent, because it gives an impression that the matter is not self-evident.
B. What would the author opine with regards to dorming versus staying at home where the homes are very spiritually lacking and pose a risk for a talmid/ah? E.g. should a young bochur be encouraged to stay in a dormitory when there is unfiltered internet at home? I don’t know the answer. There are good arguments on both sides. I had to decide this question and I advised the hanhala to allow the boys to remain at home. I wonder whether I was correct.

]]> By: Yossie Nemes https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20235 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 02:34:38 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20235 Yasher koach Rabbi Avtzon. Very important topic of it

]]> By: 10 shvat 5734 https://anash.org/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-bochur-family-relationship/#comment-20234 Sun, 19 Feb 2023 00:42:51 +0000 https://anash.org/?p=553374#comment-20234 The Rebbe spoke about the importance of a bochur spending time with his family (in general and specifically Friday night), on yud shvat 5734. May we merit the ultimate unification of us with our Rebbe right now!

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