Comments on: Chabad Rabbonim Debate Conduct for Friday Asara B’teves

By: Only because Shabbos is late

Only because Shabbos is late — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 05:08:03 +0000

In reply to Why every year. Other years tzeis was earlier so there was plenty of time to make kidush before 6. This year it came out later so there is barely enough time.

By: Why every year

Why every year — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 13:12:07 +0000

In reply to Source?. I don’t understand why this was such a big discussion this year- this is rather third time in five years we have this. I really feel like there shouldn’t be too much debate at this point

By: Ploni

Ploni — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 07:33:23 +0000

The paper from Beit Shemesh addresses those that wish to make Kiddush and eat Mezonos, and says not to do so because EIn Kiddush Ella Bmkom Seuda. Can someone please explain what they mean?

By: Thank you

Thank you — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 05:32:37 +0000

Thank you for presenting this in English

By: Source?

Source? — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 01:27:46 +0000

1- what’s your source for this , that the Rebbe would daven earlier?
2- most Rabbonei chabad quoted in this article, hold that shma be done only after Tzeis, and that if you didn’t make it to do Kiddush before 6, you can do it then. I assume the Rabbanim did their research.

By: The Rebbe Davened before time for Shma

The Rebbe Davened before time for Shma — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:57:47 +0000

On such a Kvius when Asara B’Teiveis fell on Friday, the Rebbe would Daven very early a few minutes after Shkia, and Shma was read before Tzeis. Even on regular Shabbosim the Rebbe would many times daven early enough to say Shma before the Zman, so this whole discussion is strange. By the Rebbe it was more important not to have people fast even one extra minute, especially Shabbos. Shma you can always say later. Especially if you say Shma before retiring for the night so you will in the end say Shma and the concern that one may forget is minimal to none.

By: testimony

testimony — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:02:43 +0000

The rumor from Rabbi Groner was noted by the Rabbonim, and for various reasons they chose to reject it. There are multiple issues with that rumor.

By: Maishie Citrin

Maishie Citrin — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 18:01:45 +0000

This was discussed in Hiskashrus #379.
There it is written that R’ Leibel Groner said the Rebbe was makpid on the seventh hour even on a friday night after a fast day.

Also worth noting that the Rebbe says very clearly in Igros (printed in Shulchan Menachem chelek beis) that we go by Chatzos Haemtzoi.