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		By: Aharon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aharon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 23:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11504&quot;&gt;1 1&lt;/a&gt;.

Or it could be that there are kanoim who are anti Chabad, which is the more likely scenario. A few years ago there was an asifa against Mayonie where the Mishkanos Haroim Rebbe spoke (or was his brother the Porisover) and others about the dangers of Chabad and the risks of a slippery slope etc. 
Certain parts of the Chassidishe and Litvish crowd who would oppose a person learning Chabad Chassidus on his own in private, for ideological reasons or for the understandable fear of the person taking it further. What is to be gained in denying that fact?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11504">1 1</a>.</p>
<p>Or it could be that there are kanoim who are anti Chabad, which is the more likely scenario. A few years ago there was an asifa against Mayonie where the Mishkanos Haroim Rebbe spoke (or was his brother the Porisover) and others about the dangers of Chabad and the risks of a slippery slope etc.<br />
Certain parts of the Chassidishe and Litvish crowd who would oppose a person learning Chabad Chassidus on his own in private, for ideological reasons or for the understandable fear of the person taking it further. What is to be gained in denying that fact?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 16:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11494&quot;&gt;Aharon&lt;/a&gt;.

could be the reason vizhintz and others expelled the kids is due to the fact the they are part of a diffrend so called &quot;Chassidus&quot;? maybe if the whole place wouldn&#039;t become what it is now and would stay on the course of its original founders they would never throw out any kids cause its not a chassidus with shuls rather only shiurim...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11494">Aharon</a>.</p>
<p>could be the reason vizhintz and others expelled the kids is due to the fact the they are part of a diffrend so called &#8220;Chassidus&#8221;? maybe if the whole place wouldn&#8217;t become what it is now and would stay on the course of its original founders they would never throw out any kids cause its not a chassidus with shuls rather only shiurim&#8230;</p>
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		By: Aharon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aharon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 07:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11479&quot;&gt;1 1&lt;/a&gt;.

One of the reasons Mayonei developed is because yungerleit were pushed out of their kehillos. Remember when the Vizhnitzer Rebbe of Beit Shemesh expelled all the Mayonei children from his cheder. Social pressure is much stronger in some polisher kehillos. If you don&#039;t toe the line you&#039;re ostracized. In such cases, Mayonei serves as an alternative.

But in friendlier groups like Boyan, Machnovk, Dushinsky you are correct. Yungerleit can remain where they are and learn Chassidus. They even have kollelim for Chassidus under their own rubric.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11479">1 1</a>.</p>
<p>One of the reasons Mayonei developed is because yungerleit were pushed out of their kehillos. Remember when the Vizhnitzer Rebbe of Beit Shemesh expelled all the Mayonei children from his cheder. Social pressure is much stronger in some polisher kehillos. If you don&#8217;t toe the line you&#8217;re ostracized. In such cases, Mayonei serves as an alternative.</p>
<p>But in friendlier groups like Boyan, Machnovk, Dushinsky you are correct. Yungerleit can remain where they are and learn Chassidus. They even have kollelim for Chassidus under their own rubric.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11469&quot;&gt;Chaim+Vogel&lt;/a&gt;.

if its right what your saying then why do they need a own network, they should each stay where they are and let it become a נחלת הכלל by staying where they are and not becoming they&#039;re own so called &quot;chassidus&quot;??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11469">Chaim+Vogel</a>.</p>
<p>if its right what your saying then why do they need a own network, they should each stay where they are and let it become a נחלת הכלל by staying where they are and not becoming they&#8217;re own so called &#8220;chassidus&#8221;??</p>
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		By: Aharon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aharon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2022 16:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11469&quot;&gt;Chaim+Vogel&lt;/a&gt;.

It depends who you&#039;re talking about not forfeiting a connection to the Rebbe. Regarding the members of Mayonie Yisroel I would agree. They learn the Rebbe&#039;s Torah and arrange trips to the Ohel etc.

But what about groups like R&#039; Menachem Ehrlangers chaburah. They are seemingly anti dor hashvi&#039;yi. Is it wonderful that they learn the maamorim of the Rabe&#039;im? Yes, definitely. But are they forfeiting? Also yes.

How about R&#039; Sheinberger&#039;s group? Or R&#039; Kluger? This is by no means a monolithic movement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/chabad-mekuravim-network-appoints-rabbonim-of-their-own/#comment-11469">Chaim+Vogel</a>.</p>
<p>It depends who you&#8217;re talking about not forfeiting a connection to the Rebbe. Regarding the members of Mayonie Yisroel I would agree. They learn the Rebbe&#8217;s Torah and arrange trips to the Ohel etc.</p>
<p>But what about groups like R&#8217; Menachem Ehrlangers chaburah. They are seemingly anti dor hashvi&#8217;yi. Is it wonderful that they learn the maamorim of the Rabe&#8217;im? Yes, definitely. But are they forfeiting? Also yes.</p>
<p>How about R&#8217; Sheinberger&#8217;s group? Or R&#8217; Kluger? This is by no means a monolithic movement.</p>
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		By: Chaim+Vogel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2022 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With all due respect, I do not believe they are forfeiting a connection with the Rebbe, in fact I think they developed a relationship that we should wish to have! Just because they haven&#039;t become complete lubavitchers?! How much have they changed from they way they were brought up and how much have we, to the way the Rebbe expects of us? I believe we should only look at them in admiration!
On a aside, if it&#039;s about the levush, I believe the Rebbe specifically wanted poilisher chassidim to keep the levush, I think to inspire others of their group,that chassidus should be נחלת הכלל not just for lubavitchers, isn&#039;t that what יפוצו מעיינותיך חוצה is all about?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, I do not believe they are forfeiting a connection with the Rebbe, in fact I think they developed a relationship that we should wish to have! Just because they haven&#8217;t become complete lubavitchers?! How much have they changed from they way they were brought up and how much have we, to the way the Rebbe expects of us? I believe we should only look at them in admiration!<br />
On a aside, if it&#8217;s about the levush, I believe the Rebbe specifically wanted poilisher chassidim to keep the levush, I think to inspire others of their group,that chassidus should be נחלת הכלל not just for lubavitchers, isn&#8217;t that what יפוצו מעיינותיך חוצה is all about?!</p>
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