Comments on: Buying With Intention of Returning

By: G'Nayvish Shtick

G'Nayvish Shtick — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:04:12 +0000

We are in the month of Elul, and I am doing everything in my power to be respectful.

If Goyim knew this is HALACHA, they would close stores to every Jew.
In all my life, I always heard the Yetzer Horo in me saying, Go to Costco, and just return it later, everyone else does it.
But I refrained, because it is purely a Yetser Horo, Gnayvishe Shtick.
Who am I to make Costco lose money because they have a honest policy. If there was a Honest Lubavitcher on Kingston Ave who allowed people to return after weeks of using it? He would lose his parnosso in 2 months!!!

Anash.org you have a responsibility to censure such statements.

I pray that Goyim do not see this.

By: Potur Aval Asur

Potur Aval Asur — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:50:19 +0000

IMHO, one who purchases in order to return (so that they can get free access to an item they should really pay for) may be potur, but they’re a Naval Birshus HaTorah.

There is a concept of Yosher in Torah, straightforwardness, forthrightness, honesty, and this is not it.

By: Chillul Hashem

Chillul Hashem — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 07:11:17 +0000

When year-round residents are not allowed to make returns during the summer months, as many stores don’t accept any returns then, because of the large influx of bungalow colony goers who buy and return, it’s an awful Chillul Hashem.
Why don’t you go rent an air conditioner instead?
Why buy a new one when you know you don’t want to keep it, and cause the store owners and the suppliers financial damage?
Oh yeah, think also about the other shoppers who will have to pay higher prices because of your greed!
Hello, it’s Elul.

By: Nachum Shemaryahu Zajac

Nachum Shemaryahu Zajac — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 00:28:56 +0000

With all due respect to Rabbi Raskin, I question the final linesof this piece.

While this “may” possibly be true, accrdoing to the strict letter of the law, this is highly problomatic according to the spirit of the law, and it may not be something which we want to be announced from the rooftops for all to do.

In addition, there is the known aspect of Chilul Hashem. If that does not bother you, then at least the issue of creating and fermenting Anti Semitism should give all of us a pause.

I would like to conclude with the following words of Chazal in the end of Meseches Yuma:

אביי אמר כדתניא (דברים ו, ה) וואהבת את ה’ אלהיך שיהא שם שמים מתאהב על ידך שיהא קורא ושונה ומשמש ת”ח ויהא משאו ומתנו בנחת עם הבריות מה הבריות אומרות עליו אשרי אביו שלמדו תורה אשרי רבו שלמדו תורה אוי להם לבריות שלא למדו תורה פלוני שלמדו תורה ראו כמה נאים דרכיו כמה מתוקנים מעשיו עליו הכתוב אומר (ישעיהו מט, ג) ויאמר לי עבדי אתה ישראל אשר בך אתפאר אבל מי שקורא ושונה ומשמש ת”ח ואין משאו ומתנו באמונה ואין דבורו בנחת עם הבריות מה הבריות אומרות עליו אוי לו לפלוני שלמד תורה אוי לו לאביו שלמדו תורה אוי לו לרבו שלמדו תורה פלוני שלמד תורה ראו כמה מקולקלין מעשיו וכמה מכוערין דרכיו ועליו הכתוב אומר (יחזקאל לו, כ) באמור להם עם ה’ אלה ומארצו יצאו

By: Mendel E

Mendel E — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:34:05 +0000

Dear “The Rov is correct” Please note, the local managers do not write policy for the chain. In addition it cost stores money to restock etc, and sometimes cannot even sell it again even if it is not damaged. This is Hezik B’Yadayim. Mendel Nemanov is correct!

By: The Rov is correct

The Rov is correct — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 20:02:50 +0000

A manager from Wal-Mart has said that they do explicitly allow buying with the intent to return as it builds trust and loyalty with the store.

He also explained that often customers will choose to keep it despite buying it to return.

Additionally, if it gets damaged the store won’t accept the return. So that’s another reason for them to allow such a sale.

By: Mendel Nemanov

Mendel Nemanov — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 19:42:44 +0000

Take a moment to google ‘walmart return policy’ or ‘costco return policy’ and read their official policies.

Both websites clearly say that they want you to be 100% satisfied.

Costco says “guarantee your satisfaction”
Walmart says “Not 100% satisfied with your item? We will make it right”.

Clearly their policy is to allow returns if you are not 100% satisfied, but not because you don’t need it any longer.

By: Mendel Nemanov

Mendel Nemanov — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 17:54:55 +0000

With all due respect to the Rov, I suspect that the he doesn’t correctly understand the store policy.

Just because the store policy is “with no questions asked” doesn’t mean they allow you to buy with the intent to return.

It just means they won’t ask and hope you will be honest. Their policy is definitely not that you can buy things just to use short term and then return. Just because they won’t ask and therefore you can get away with it doesn’t mean it’s their policy to allow it.