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		By: Olam hasheker		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26223</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Olam hasheker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2023 03:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208&quot;&gt;Not all is what it seems&lt;/a&gt;.

To be honest, it&#039;s posts like yours that continue the abuse (yes, abuse) and emotional manipulation of our young unmarried daughters and sons who help out on shlichus.

As someone who has been burnt by a shliach (more than once!), contracts are an absolute must-- and if you don&#039;t think that they need one then I have a bridge to sell you. I&#039;ll be the first to say that if a shliach refuses to give you a contract, run. Fast!

And yes, I am on shlichus. These are YOUNG ADULTS that we&#039;re talking about! Diamonds from HKBH, that we have the precious opportunity to show what a beautiful, well-rounded shlichus looks like. And that starts in the home of the shliach, treating these young adults like real people, taking the time to meet with them and help them grow, caring for them like one of the family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208">Not all is what it seems</a>.</p>
<p>To be honest, it&#8217;s posts like yours that continue the abuse (yes, abuse) and emotional manipulation of our young unmarried daughters and sons who help out on shlichus.</p>
<p>As someone who has been burnt by a shliach (more than once!), contracts are an absolute must&#8211; and if you don&#8217;t think that they need one then I have a bridge to sell you. I&#8217;ll be the first to say that if a shliach refuses to give you a contract, run. Fast!</p>
<p>And yes, I am on shlichus. These are YOUNG ADULTS that we&#8217;re talking about! Diamonds from HKBH, that we have the precious opportunity to show what a beautiful, well-rounded shlichus looks like. And that starts in the home of the shliach, treating these young adults like real people, taking the time to meet with them and help them grow, caring for them like one of the family.</p>
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		By: You are venting		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You are venting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2023 02:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208&quot;&gt;Not all is what it seems&lt;/a&gt;.

Looks like you are venting with anger!!
Just saying !!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208">Not all is what it seems</a>.</p>
<p>Looks like you are venting with anger!!<br />
Just saying !!</p>
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		By: היתכן		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26220</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[היתכן]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 22:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208&quot;&gt;Not all is what it seems&lt;/a&gt;.

Very true, but that&#039;s another thing that you could make a article for *5 tips for the Girls* (That they should appreciate the Shlucim buy them gifts...), But this one is not for the girls it&#039;s for the Shluchim... And No they do NOT mean any harm C&quot;V rather, sometimes due to the fact that the dedicated Shluchim are working so hard they may tend to forget the needs and psychological care those under them need, &#038; that&#039;s why the author who is writing this is not demanding [or threatening] as that would be counter productive and would not help with the point of the that&#039;s trying to be brought out....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208">Not all is what it seems</a>.</p>
<p>Very true, but that&#8217;s another thing that you could make a article for *5 tips for the Girls* (That they should appreciate the Shlucim buy them gifts&#8230;), But this one is not for the girls it&#8217;s for the Shluchim&#8230; And No they do NOT mean any harm C&#8221;V rather, sometimes due to the fact that the dedicated Shluchim are working so hard they may tend to forget the needs and psychological care those under them need, &amp; that&#8217;s why the author who is writing this is not demanding [or threatening] as that would be counter productive and would not help with the point of the that&#8217;s trying to be brought out&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Fully Agree		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26219</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fully Agree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208&quot;&gt;Not all is what it seems&lt;/a&gt;.

However, the author does identify as a burnt out post sem girl, so it&#039;s not like we expected the most mature content here]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208">Not all is what it seems</a>.</p>
<p>However, the author does identify as a burnt out post sem girl, so it&#8217;s not like we expected the most mature content here</p>
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		By: My daughters		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26215</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My daughters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26199&quot;&gt;Very well written&lt;/a&gt;.

I have 5 daughters who have all gone on shlichus and yes all these issues and more could&#039;ve been prevented by this info. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26199">Very well written</a>.</p>
<p>I have 5 daughters who have all gone on shlichus and yes all these issues and more could&#8217;ve been prevented by this info. Thank you.</p>
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		By: Not all is what it seems		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26208</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not all is what it seems]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 16:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With all due respect, this appears to be a misguided venting. Certainly, every shliach (person!) should take care to treat all their employees and partners with respect. This op-ed is formulated as a list of demands which certainly doesn&#039;t take into account other things the shliach may do.

To quote another comment &quot;The principle of going out one’s הגבלות one should apply to oneself, not to someone else.&quot; This applies equally to the girls/bochurim going to help a shliach. 

Expecting gifts? I am sure they would be appreciated - but precisely because they aren&#039;t expected!  

A proper contract is a wonderful idea, but the implication is that anything not explicitly agreed upon is too demanding. Perhaps gifts should be included in the contract as well? Obviously that is ridiculous on its face. And appointing an intermediary? That is certainly excessive for a short-term, temporary position.

In person meetings can be immensely valuable at times - but it is widely agreed (in the &quot;working&quot; world) that they are usually a tremendous waste of time and resources with few clear benefits. Shluchim have very limited resources already, asking them to spend more seems unwise.

Of course the last two are no-brainers - although the last is a thinly veiled threat.

What is left out, however, is what the shluchim *do*. How much effort did they put into feeding, housing, etc? Were the shluchims efforts appreciated? Rememeber, this is a *shlichus*, not a glitzy internship in a multi-million dollar corporation. The shluchim are putting in their heart and soul, and if they occasionally don&#039;t provide the high level of comfort the girls are accustomed to, perhaps the soul-searching needs to be on the part of the young people? 

Frankly, yes, one should research a makom hashlichus before accepting an opportunity, and, yes, that might include how much they spend on chanukah gifts. If what you hear is not what you expect, you will probably both be better off not engaging.

If there are issues during the year, make an effort to figure it out. You are an adult, and just as you expect to be treated as such, behave that way as well. 

Shlichus is an incredible opportunity and privilege that the Rebbe has given us, and not always is it as glamorous as it sounds. 

Most importantly, if you have constructive feedback, find a way to provide it to the shluchim directly (or if necessary through an intermediary). Don&#039;t resort to backhandedly slandering hundreds of hard-working and dedicated shluchim when a therapist would be a better recourse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, this appears to be a misguided venting. Certainly, every shliach (person!) should take care to treat all their employees and partners with respect. This op-ed is formulated as a list of demands which certainly doesn&#8217;t take into account other things the shliach may do.</p>
<p>To quote another comment &#8220;The principle of going out one’s הגבלות one should apply to oneself, not to someone else.&#8221; This applies equally to the girls/bochurim going to help a shliach. </p>
<p>Expecting gifts? I am sure they would be appreciated &#8211; but precisely because they aren&#8217;t expected!  </p>
<p>A proper contract is a wonderful idea, but the implication is that anything not explicitly agreed upon is too demanding. Perhaps gifts should be included in the contract as well? Obviously that is ridiculous on its face. And appointing an intermediary? That is certainly excessive for a short-term, temporary position.</p>
<p>In person meetings can be immensely valuable at times &#8211; but it is widely agreed (in the &#8220;working&#8221; world) that they are usually a tremendous waste of time and resources with few clear benefits. Shluchim have very limited resources already, asking them to spend more seems unwise.</p>
<p>Of course the last two are no-brainers &#8211; although the last is a thinly veiled threat.</p>
<p>What is left out, however, is what the shluchim *do*. How much effort did they put into feeding, housing, etc? Were the shluchims efforts appreciated? Rememeber, this is a *shlichus*, not a glitzy internship in a multi-million dollar corporation. The shluchim are putting in their heart and soul, and if they occasionally don&#8217;t provide the high level of comfort the girls are accustomed to, perhaps the soul-searching needs to be on the part of the young people? </p>
<p>Frankly, yes, one should research a makom hashlichus before accepting an opportunity, and, yes, that might include how much they spend on chanukah gifts. If what you hear is not what you expect, you will probably both be better off not engaging.</p>
<p>If there are issues during the year, make an effort to figure it out. You are an adult, and just as you expect to be treated as such, behave that way as well. </p>
<p>Shlichus is an incredible opportunity and privilege that the Rebbe has given us, and not always is it as glamorous as it sounds. </p>
<p>Most importantly, if you have constructive feedback, find a way to provide it to the shluchim directly (or if necessary through an intermediary). Don&#8217;t resort to backhandedly slandering hundreds of hard-working and dedicated shluchim when a therapist would be a better recourse.</p>
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		By: Very well written		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26199</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Very well written]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 03:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for writing this clear guided, thought out article. Each one of these important points are valid even crucial for a successful year.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this clear guided, thought out article. Each one of these important points are valid even crucial for a successful year&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Not just for girls		</title>
		<link>https://anash.org/bringing-down-girls-for-shlichus-here-are-five-tips/#comment-26196</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not just for girls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 02:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article!
I&#039;d imagine much of what was written here applies when bringing down bochurim and even new shluchim to work under you. The principle of going out one&#039;s הגבלות one should apply to oneself, not to someone else]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!<br />
I&#8217;d imagine much of what was written here applies when bringing down bochurim and even new shluchim to work under you. The principle of going out one&#8217;s הגבלות one should apply to oneself, not to someone else</p>
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